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I love the lies with statistics.

"We already lean quite heavily on the top 1% - the top 1% actually pays more in taxes than the bottom 90%."

The chart of course only shows federal income tax.

What about federal payroll? What about excise taxes? And at the state and local levels, what about sales taxes?

Here's a much better link:

http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-17350-9_things_the_ric...

From this article you'll note:

This year the first $9,350 of income is exempt from taxes for singles and $18,700 for married couples, just slightly more than in 2008. That means millions of the poor do not make enough to owe income taxes.

But they still pay plenty of other taxes, including federal payroll taxes. Between gas taxes, sales taxes, utility taxes and other taxes, no one lives tax-free in America.

When it comes to state and local taxes, the poor bear a heavier burden than the rich in every state except Vermont, the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy calculated from official data. In Alabama, for example, the burden on the poor is more than twice that of the top 1 percent. The one-fifth of Alabama families making less than $13,000 pay almost 11 percent of their income in state and local taxes, compared with less than 4 percent for those who make $229,000 or more.

and

It’s true that the top 1 percent of wage earners paid 38 percent of the federal income taxes in 2008 (the most recent year for which data is available). But people forget that the income tax is less than half of federal taxes and only one-fifth of taxes at all levels of government.

Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes (known as payroll taxes) are paid mostly by the bottom 90 percent of wage earners. That’s because, once you reach $106,800 of income, you pay no more for Social Security, though the much smaller Medicare tax applies to all wages. Warren Buffett pays the exact same amount of Social Security taxes as someone who earns $106,800.

Don't let some fool you into believing that the poor don't pay their share of taxes. They do.



Warren Buffet is specifically talking about federal income taxes, not payroll taxes such as Social Security and Medicare, which can be considered benefits because people contributing will get a return when they retire (it's actually a progressive system, in which the poor get more than what they contribute).

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=3213&type=0&sequenc...

These federal income taxes aren't lies.

http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html


If you have data showing that including payroll or state taxes change this picture, feel free to post it.

I gave the best data I have access to.


The link that he gave already adjusts the numbers for payroll taxes (but it's obvious from looking at how the tax is collected that it's regressive -- i.e., flat rate up to $106k and then no tax on wages above that).

With regard to state taxes, this report gives a pretty thorough analysis for all 50 states: http://www.itepnet.org/state_reports/whopays.php

It's pretty evident from the data in this report that state taxes are very regressive in most states, mostly due to sales taxes.


The link he gives does not provide % of tax burden / % of income earned, nor do I see any way to figure that out from the data given.

I agree that payroll taxes are regressive past $106k, but it's hardly clear that this changes the picture significantly. I.e., the 12.4% a poor person pays in payroll taxes need not outweigh the 0% they pay in income taxes.


Three major problems with this study:

First, it omits estate (inheritance) taxes.

Second, the use of the federal itemized deduction offset is very misleading, given that the deduction's purpose is to avoid double taxation in the first place, and that the money states get from the federal government comes almost exclusively from progressive sources.

Third, the intersection of the previous two. Most of the difference between brackets regardless of states is accounted for by the wealthy paying very little sales tax. They pay very little sales tax because they consume very little of their income. What they don't consume ends up being taxed in the estate tax mentioned earlier or given to charity neither of which are included in this report but both of which pay for similar things to state taxes (helping the poor, schools, libraries, parks, etc)




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