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What happens when mom & pop are storing your name and credit card # in plain text and then your identity gets stolen and credit ruined? Should we still be "charitable" to them and their d-bag nephew?


Your credit card number being stolen is a problem for your bank, not a problem for you. You can't steal someone's identity with a credit card number.

The concern in this case is when there is some social problem with being in Mom & Pop Inc's customer database. There are probably some people that buy some things that they don't want other people to know about. When the database gets hacked and you are linked to being their customer, that is the unfortunate and potentially damaging information leak. A credit card just gets reissued and the bank reverses the transaction. No big deal.


It's a problem for the vendors, not the banks. They get hit with chargebacks for fraud that's no fault of their own, hurting the whole ecosystem of vendors and their customers.

https://www.thestreet.com/personal-finance/credit-cards/cred...


The problem could be easily solved by Visa/MC/Discover/Amex implementing chip and pin, or at least 2FA SMS authorization. Bestbuy.com has it working somehow.


These people can't configure a firewall. How are they going to implement payments in the secure fashion you suggest?


I meant that Visa/MC/Discover/AmEx should be forcing the use of chip and Pin or other 2FA methods.


> Your credit card number being stolen is a problem for your bank, not a problem for you.

Not necessarily, depending on where you're based.


It's still a PITA when my credit card has to be swapped.


Ye it is not like I trust my credit card to strangers and let them walk away with it for a while.




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