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		SheinhardtWigCo on July 15, 2020 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: German court bans Tesla ad statements related to a... These are all optimistic projections stated as fact. I think we simply disagree on whether to call that a lie.

Ajedi32 on July 15, 2020 [–]

Agreed. Personally I think it depends on whether the projections are being made in good faith. Being wrong about something doesn't make you a liar unless you knew you were wrong when you made the statement in the first place.

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