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Andreas Rossberg's 1ML is (was?) an effort to unify the module syntax with that of functions and values (https://people.mpi-sws.org/~rossberg/papers/Rossberg%20-%201..., https://github.com/rossberg/1ml)

The module syntax is certainly clumsy in comparison to the rest of the language, and it's not just the syntax - everything about functor arguments is a bit murky.



Thanks for the link, it looks just like what I was after!

I've been reading through the paper and it looks really nice. It seems to rely on dependent records, which I assumed might be the case; but it claims the dependency is "benign" and elaborates-way when translated to System-F (I haven't reached that part yet); so it does seem to have found the right "trick" (i.e. a tractable subset of dependent types which enables modules, without losing too much inference or devolving into a game of prove-the-lemma).

Incidentally, it's also a nice use of "first class types" which isn't (fully) dependently-typed. It irks me when I read blog posts about e.g. Agda or Idris, which describe first-class types (i.e. no stratification, passing types in and out of functions, etc.) but call that "dependent types"; then don't mention the actual "dependent" part (type signatures which bind values to names, which can be referenced "later on" in the type).


Is ML used in industry? If so, what would be the scenarios/use cases?


> what would be the scenarios/use cases?

MLs are good at representing and manipulating complicated data with intricate invariants (e.g. using algebraic data types for representions, pattern-matching for traversing/manipulating data, abstract/existential types for encapsulation and enforcing interfaces, etc.). In practice this makes it good for handling other languages (after all, "ML" stands for "meta language").

Its original purpose was manipulating mathematical proofs/expressions, and it's still popular for that, e.g. Isabelle's core is written in PolyML, Coq is written in Ocaml, and I think some others like the various HOLs use it too; note that these see a little use in industry for verification (although some famous verification examples, like AMD's FPU verification, used ACL2 which is based on Lisp rather than ML).

It's also good for manipulating Web languages like HTML and Javascript, which has spawned a few compile-to-Web languages which are ML-like or implemented in ML, e.g. http://opalang.org and http://www.impredicative.com/ur . This might also be why Facebook made/use Reason ( https://reasonml.github.io ), which AFAIK is an alternative syntax for Ocaml.

Jane Street seem to be heavy users of Ocaml, since they sponsor a lot of work on the compiler and infrastructure.


The wiki page for SML claims it's used by chip manufacturers like ARM, but no citation.

However, languages like Ocaml and F# are direct descendants of ML, and those languages see wider modern adoption. In this sense ML is kind of equivalent to C, and something like Ocaml is kind of equivalent to C++. Haskell is also in the ML family but its laziness and emphasis on purity keeps it a bit separate from its cousins.

In general, FP sees adoption where correctness is of overriding importance -- e.g., Jane Street's use of Ocaml.


ML is a general-purpose programming language, and as such its use case cannot be narrowly specified. (They say it's good for writing compilers, but I wouldn't latch on that.)


He asked if it was used in industry. This can be answered by looking at job postings or TIOBE.




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