>So I'm not sure what particular straw man or false equivalency argument you're trying to make but first let me point out that I'm not American, I'm Australian.
Doesn't change much. I'm contrasting the holier than thou western narrative vs China.
>And you're right that there are grave issues (for these and many other countries) but that doesn't excuse the actions of the Chinse government.
No, it just makes hypocrites of those that single it out.
>Nor does it make all such actions equivalent and the presence of such sins doesn't disqualify you from pointing out such abuses.
Sure. I posit that the actions I've described are actually worse.
>Let's not forget that in the US I can talk about slavery, segregation, the arguably illegal wars in Korea, Vietnam and Iraq, dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, taking land from Native Americans and a whole host of other issues because such information isn't censored and I'm not going to end up in a labour camp for bringing it up. Until that's true in China, don't even try the moral equivalence argument.
So, the idea is that it's OK to do bad things, as long as people in your country can openly talk about them?
Especially as this talk is just ignored (people talking and demonstrating about it didn't stop the Vietnam war continuing for 2 decades, or the abolition of slavery taking 4 centuries and a huge civil war).
Doesn't change much. I'm contrasting the holier than thou western narrative vs China.
>And you're right that there are grave issues (for these and many other countries) but that doesn't excuse the actions of the Chinse government.
No, it just makes hypocrites of those that single it out.
>Nor does it make all such actions equivalent and the presence of such sins doesn't disqualify you from pointing out such abuses.
Sure. I posit that the actions I've described are actually worse.
>Let's not forget that in the US I can talk about slavery, segregation, the arguably illegal wars in Korea, Vietnam and Iraq, dropping the atomic bomb on Japan, taking land from Native Americans and a whole host of other issues because such information isn't censored and I'm not going to end up in a labour camp for bringing it up. Until that's true in China, don't even try the moral equivalence argument.
So, the idea is that it's OK to do bad things, as long as people in your country can openly talk about them?
Especially as this talk is just ignored (people talking and demonstrating about it didn't stop the Vietnam war continuing for 2 decades, or the abolition of slavery taking 4 centuries and a huge civil war).