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Been living in the Bay Area for 17 years. Nothing will change.


Only if you believe that the Supreme Court has no impact on your life, which would be... an interesting position to take really.


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Are there female and / or gay people in your life whose rights matter to you?


Citizens United.


Citizens United has had basically zero effect on my life. Before it, rich folks controlled politics. After it, rich folks controlled politics. The only difference is that now they can do so more overtly, and everybody knows that's how the system works.


Citizens United is not the example I would have gone with. It really only effects the ability of corporations to influence politics, so its effects on citizens are indirect at best.

Roe v. Wade and its predecessor cases (Griswold et al.) which legalized contraception and abortion across the US have had an obvious and direct effect on many people.


This election offers abundant evidence of how overemphasized Citizens United actually is. Clinton vastly outspent Trump, but still lost.


What about for poor people?

(I'm not American, don't live there, so I genuinely don't know what effect the federal government might have on each state.)


Goodbye healthcare!


Nothing in the Bay Area perhaps. That's not the same as the country or the world.


The Bay Area's economy is heavily affected by the US economy. Based on data so far, Trump's election is having an effect on the US economy.


So far, those are only fluctuations affected mostly by speculation. We have to wait a few months to see the real effects.


What happens when the value of equity grants plummets?


If it's part of a broad-based stock market decline, not much. The risk of plummeting equity grants to Bay Area tech companies is that your employees will go to the company next door whose equity is going up like a rocket. If everybody's miserable and poor, then they just go on inventing stuff and coming out with new software.

Honestly, I think the Valley is much more fun to be in during busts than booms. All the folks who just want to get rich quick leave, and you're left with the people who actually make things.


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Unless you're gay, a woman, or part of a minority. Then your situation is that the leader of the free world is at best openly dismissive of you, and at worst actively encourages hate towards you.


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Government cannot solve something like slavery or Jim Crow?


> I don't believe that the government can solve social problems.

Other than not making it illegal for these people to live their ways of life?


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You want 100℅ solved, when most people just want the government to help nudge society in the right direction. Civil rights and anti discrimination laws are doing that.


Are you serious? You don't think the lives of LGBT has been different since marriage equality was passed?

You don't think our Vice President supporting electro-shock therapy for gay teens is a bad thing that has real impacts?

God damnit I just can't tell if people in this thread are some ignorant, heartless, or absolutely blinded by privilege.


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>Laws cannot change what people think and how they feel, so without absolute control laws cannot prevent people from treating one another poorly.

If only virtually every single instance of social progress in this country didn't show the opposite...

Go look at charts showing public opinion about LGBT folk and gay marriage and see what happened in June of 2015.

Or look at acceptance of blacks in American society after forced integration, particularly of the military.

Or look at the acceptance of womens' suffrage before and after it was made legal.

Also, I'd like to hear a direct answer to this question: You don't think our Vice President supporting electro-shock therapy for gay teens is a bad thing that has real impacts?


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You're missing the point and I'm probably just digging myself a hole, but hey, it's karma and this is my life.

I'm really glad though, that you won't be affected by a Trump/Pence presidency, their open desire to rollback gay rights, or their regular demonization and scapegoating of minorities. I mean, it's not like we've already seen incidents of violence and hate speech as a result of this election cycle. Not like we've already heard reports of kids repeating Trump's racist talk and leveraging it against other kids).

I guess somehow you think that our President and VP aren't role models for our children.

I'm glad you get to sleep tonight without worrying about how your friends and family will be affected by a Trump/Pence Presidency. I sure wish I were so privileged and naive!


I'm sorry. I see now that I am unable to even understand how what I have said made you so upset, so all I can do is apologize.


Way to cop out, delete all your posts and act petty. What, exactly, is the part that is so difficult for you to understand?

Do you think the President and VP are role models for our children, yes or no?

Do you think that our VP supporting electro-shocking gay teens will have an affect on youth and lgbt policy in the country, yes or no?

It's okay, I already know you still won't actually answer those questions.


Bay Area as it currently is is around 40 years old

Yes, some things may change


It was nothing but vineyards and hippies before and it might return to that state in the not too distant future.




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