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Anybody who isn't at least treating this situation as possibly just an authoritarian government picking winners and losers is not paying attention to the political environment.

Companies/countries/people are paying off the government in all sorts of various ways (crypto, gifts, bogus settlements, planes, inaugurations, ballrooms). The companies that pay off the government get big fat contracts and merger agreements, and the ones that don't get increased scrutiny, lawsuits and threats.

OpenAI and SpaceX are friends of the administration, and Anthropic is (politically at least), not friends with the administration.

Could this penalty be a rational and reasonable reaction to the new model? Perhaps. Or maybe it is just a made up excuse to do what the government wants to do, which is punish its political enemies. It wouldn't be the first, second, third or 10th time that has happened so far in this administration.


Ah but you have forgotten that HN is full of people who are so aloof and "above the fray" (compliments to their raw intellect, of course) that it would be beneath them to consider the realities of the political situation.

I just think that it's dodging the question in this case. It's true that the US government is run by crooks who'd all be serving prison sentences in a just world, and that they'd certainly do whatever Anthropic wants in exchange for a sufficiently large bribe. But the US government also serves a number of important roles in American society that we can't simply turn off and come back to in 2029.

Your last sentence sounds reasonable. Can you give examples?

I think most people would agree, for example, that the FTC should continue going after fraudsters (https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2026/06/...) and the FBI should continue prosecuting arsonists (https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdtx/pr/former-turkey-leg-hut-o...), even if both agencies are run by partisan hacks right now.

Well this administration is full of pathological liars, so what are their true intentions with this?

It is kinda amazing how quickly everybody else is to support authoritarianism if it agrees with some perceived slight of theirs.

I guess that is how it always starts.


Dario was literally asking for hardware exports to be banned using the same laws as were used to ban his model.

The fascist is inside the building.


The “TikTok ban” was a law passed by Congress that the Trump administration completely ignored until they arranged the sale to a political ally.

Both sides are not at all the same in how executive power is being wielded.

Be as upset as you want about Congress passing the law but that’s a 100x higher bar than what the Trump administration does regularly.


It's good that they sold it to Ellison, an ardent zionist who referred to IDF as "our guys", who also now owns CBS, CNN and what else? What can we call this?

Can we at least debate the obvious externality that an insider might skew their advice or actions to personally profit instead of doing whatever they think is most appropriate for their job?

That seems like a big one


Yeah I agree that there are big negative externalities and this is one. I’m more talking about is someone with insider knowledge but not the ability to influence - is that a bad thing specifically for these type of markets?


That phenomenon exists regardless. There may be some benefit to make it transparent.

All war is for profit anyway - on sufficiently long time scales, stopping war is the imperative.


It is funny that my first reaction to your post was that you are crazy, but then I looked at his comment history and you are completely right. Boy this is not a good development. I don’t want to spend my time reading AI generated comments.


It’s so weird, right?

Clearly this comment relevant to the tool the profile is selling as a kind of ‘submarine’ ad… profile was created 53 days ago (so no green tag) but only started commenting in earnest 12 hours ago (almost as if the account was farmed).

And the comment is full of AI tropes that seem highly generated.


It’s clearly AI generated when you see 3 comments of similar style posted in the same minute.

Anyways ignore the people downvoting you, I don’t want to read AI generated comments even if they are seemingly reasonable. I appreciate you flagging the comment for me, I didn’t even suspect it. I can make my own AI generated content if I want it, I want to read thoughts and ideas from actual humans.


Good to see a fellow human on here. Thank you.


> started commenting in earnest 12 hours ago ...

I would skip my sleep and do the same when I found out someone is wrong on the internet!

https://xkcd.com/386/


The reason the top pros like chess960 is because they don’t need to spend hundreds of hours of opening preparation, they can just sit down and play.

Caruana (the guy who lost to Magnus), mused in a podcast that chess960 feels strange as a competitor because he doesn’t really prepare (because there are far too many openings to study) and said it feels like he’s getting paid for much less work.


There are 960 possible starting positions and the chosen one is known at the start of the tournament where players are given 15m to prepare. I have observed that GMs aren't surprised when they see the board. They usually go "ah it's this one with the opposite bishops" or something similar.


When a chess player means "no prep" it probably still means more prep than any normal person would consider reasonable, because what would require you to sit down and take notes, move pieces and memorize, they can just do in their head getting coffee by now. So yeah they recognize almost all the patterns, it's just harder justify spending 1 month on an opening you won't even be able to use, but they still know how to play certain patterns.


Oh, totally, I just wanted to highlight what beasts these players are and how wonderous it is to see them recognize so many starting positions that they already started showing familiarity despite how new the tournament format is.


Fortunately before working hours on the west coast so it shouldn't impact that many people.


I hear you on the west coast, but two thirds of the population lives east of the Mississippi and is in working hours


Ah yes, because only the west coast of a single country are the priority for a globally distributed company.


HN users assuming the US are the only country in the World, episode #53985902582.


Only one half of the US :)

Us east coasters here are having a chuckle (what else can we do? we can't get work done while Claude is down... I'll be damned if I have to type in code letter by letter ever again!).


We all have a chuckle when AWS east is down.


Yikes man.


Just a healthy reminder that places outside of the USA exist.


And what about the precedent it sets for other world powers?

Why shouldn't Russia or China just do the same and interfere with the leadership of countries they don't like.

Also it is impossible to argue the cost of the war in Iraq was worth the benefit, even if we agree Iraq is in a better place now then it was under Hussein.


> Also it is impossible to argue the cost of the war in Iraq was worth the benefit, even if we agree Iraq is in a better place now then it was under Hussein.

But the Iraquis didn’t pay the military monetary cost (arguably they paid a different cost, but it’s very hard to balance that against living under a dictator, and I said that from experience), and I’m sure US’ imperialist shenanigans could recoup the monetary cost. Seeing as US doesn’t have compulsory conscription, that takes away part of the reprehensibility of the human cost of US’ personnel caused by its interventionist policy. Which, to my eyes, leaves the thing as a net positive.

One thing can be said with certainty about countries like Venezuela and Cuba: they are broken and they cause untold pain to their citizens. The moral imperative to fix them is there, even if one can certainly discuss how and maybe quibble a little about the monetary cost.


Trillions added to the US national debt. Those chickens haven't yet come home to roost.


Just noticed the “whataboutism”. I don’t have a particular take on the comment above but those countries do those things in their own parts of the globe.

The government of nations is anarchy and in anarchy the only rule is that “might makes right”. Some seem to have a view that there is a world government and that there are “rules” when in reality there are none.


I wouldn't say there are no rules.

There are international agreements, consequences, and parties that may or may not choose to enforce those consequences.

E.g. the entire UN Security Council was predicated on the idea that no other country could/would force a nuclear power to do anything it didn't want to


Your whole argument is that the health care system should be optimized for the most productive members of society (like you, right now).

You are perfectly fine to have that belief, but the majority of people disagree with you, which is one of the primary reasons the system is designed as it is.


I think the market can do a better job of optimizing than central planning ever can - the problem is we have both the costs of capitalism and socialism concurrently with the model we have now. A worst of both worlds scenario.


A struggling business can go under.

When somebody is sick we generally save them even if the cost/benefit is poor. No market is going to solve this if you want to save sick people who don’t have a lot of money.

There is no place in the world where health care is solved, it’s one trade off vs another.

The US system is also far far from perfect but your solution is quite shallow and unlikely to fix things in a way society wants.


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